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Can anyone in Bermondsey Land remember a well known Bermondsey boxer named Bermond Billy Wells? He was named Billy Scoggins and he Lived at 35 The Grange..

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Hi Johnoj

Another Famous Bermondseyboy.
I can't say I knew much about him until now.

 


Name: Bermondsey Billy Wells
Born: 1897-03-17
Birthplace:
Hometown: United Kingdom
Height: 5′ 9″   /   175cm

won 37 (KO 13) + lost 16 (KO 2) + drawn 9 = 69
rounds boxed 550


Bermondseyboy



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hi the name of the boxer was billy wells

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hi you can look online for billy and you can gey the info a pictue of him was in the tomas a becket i used to train there as a school boy

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Hi George

are you any relation to Jimmy Oram who ran the sweet shop in Vine Lane off Tooley Street?

Kind regards

Lesley

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I have a feeling Billy Wells was the boxer that sold " White Horse Oils " in East Lane market on a sunday morning after the war. Can anyone else remember this boxer  ?

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hi bermondseygirl
 the answer to that is no but having said that , the family tree seems very grey we are going to belgium early next year to find my great grandfathers grave in ghent to try and find out who was his next of kin. do you know anybody who went to creadon road school my brother in law went to paragon school and they were from woolworth, a bit more about me i lived in the finish ph lynton road and the ol man used to to run the transport stop for long distance drivers, every saturday mourning we used to go to grange road baths and afterwoods we went to the bakers next door and  got a chunk of bread  pudding and went over the road to the park and devoured it . i have so many memories i would be here all day but i need to clear the snow
regards george

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Hi George

Sorry I don't know anyone who went to Credon Road School.

Kind regards 

Lesley

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Hi,Fosney,...i think you may mean Ted Smith,the Ex Boxer that used to sell oils,and had a Guess Your Weight pitch Down East Lane In the Fifties.....?????There was a Gents shop at the Walworth road end of the Market called Fox's,and he had pictures of almost every British Boxer,and other World Champions,usually with himself in the picture,plastered all over the Shop.B.K.

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Hi Fosney,Bombadier Billy Wells,was also the First "Gongman" for the J Arthur Rank opening titles of his films...then it was taken over by Phil Nieman...Useless bit of info but there you go  lol  B.K.I have a picture of him,but cant find out how to post it on  ...

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bilko

Yes you are right now you mentioned about guessing  your weight I remember that well  and now  its  clicked in the old grey matter Thanks thats another question answered, but I must admit I never knew his name
In fact this forum is a fountain of knowledge you learn a little more each day

Joe

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Thanks to Jim for the picture and info on Sid Smith, the Bermondsey boxer who used to guess your weight down the Blue. His pitch was on the corner of Southwark Park Road & Camilla Road:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sid_Smith_%28boxer%29


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I thought his name was Bombadier Billy Wells

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His Name was Bombardier Billy Wells.   If you google his name you will get his history.
Total fights  52
Wins          41
wins by KO  34
Losses      11
Draws  0
No contents  )

He published a book in 1911  "Modern Boxing ; A practical guide to Present Day Methods"

His historyon Wikepedia makes fascinating reading have a looksee

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Its cropped up in a few posts..But the old boxer who sold white horse oils in East lane was TOMMY NOBLE. DEFINITELY..........

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Hi

In 1923

There was talks of Joe Rolfe of Bermondsey my great grandfather to fight Bermondsey Billy Wells but never happened

see attachment

thanks chris


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Bermondsey Billy wells who was on tour in California in 1925 and was winning he's fights and climbing the us boxing table, now there was 2 Billy Wells in this era Bombardier Billy Wells heavyweight from mile end london should not be confused with Bermondsey Billy Wells a welterweight boxer and world class at that. Right Bermondsey Billy Wells was after the world welterweight champion Mickey Waler, the fight was on 1926 in Chicago. Al Capone yes the well known gangster of chicago step in and meet up with Billy Wells and guess what Billy did not show for the fight, it must have been something Al said!. what a embarrasing time for boxing in the USA.

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that should Mickey Walker sorry

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hi ya george
my to brothers went to creadon rd school ron and fred we lived lynton rd facing patterson park and my mum and dad use to drink in the finish and the sultan .

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